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Event Started: 12/16/2008 6:44:45 PM ET
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How do you overcome stereotypes and other obstacles in your way? These are just some of the many questions we will answer tonight and wrote the starting Wright here's a program trade if your questions or comments, starting Wright is an interactive Web cast. Of the demand for science and technology base careers is expected to continue to grow rapidly. If you want to be a part of that future, now is the time to get started right. Now, here is the host of Start Wright. Director of disability Services, Mr. MOA Vernooy.
Good evening, everybody. This is Jeff Vernooy. Wellcome to Start Wright. This will be our last session for this year. We are going to take a couple weeks off and get our Christmas shopping done and do other kinds of projects around the university, getting ready for the start of our winter quarter, which will start in general. And then sometime in February, I think it is the 17th, we are going to return to the air and be talking to you again with a whole lineup of shows and some more interesting kinds of bits and pieces that we are going to do here tonight. You might find that my voice sounds a little the course today. I just spent the whole day here on campus talking about issues related to learning with disabilities. And we had what was called a winter storm here on campus, which basically brought together a whole group of individuals from various perspectives, engineers, scientists, students, service providers, and others to talk about new and innovative ways that we could begin to move people with disabilities in the direction to go into the field with them. We had an opportunity to show a little bit about what we were doing with Start Wright, and got some really, really good information from folks and made some good contacts as a result of that. So, I had a pretty busy day, actually. But we have got a really good show tonight. I think we are going to move right along now and talk about academic preparation. Getting ready for college as we called it. We are going to spend a little time working on some different topics. Before we do that, let's talk about last week for just a minute.
Let's review some of the ideas for program three. Basically, last week we talked about three personal building blocks for success in becoming independent, being a good resource binder, and learning to communicate to get those are the kind of things that I have seen over the years that students really need to be able to learn to do to be successful. Now, just about any kind of educational program, and even more importantly when they go out on the job. Those are some of the things we talked about last week. We hope you are having an opportunity to practice some of those things. We did have some good responses for our homework questions last time. Homework answers. Five activities that I am confident that I do well. Charles from Dayton came back and said that math, figuring things out, softball, choosing colors and designs, and enjoyment of many different types of music are some of the things that he is confident about and does well predict Charles, that is good information for you to be able to have. Those are the kind of things that often begin to think about as you start making decisions about careers and kinds of things that you are going to do. We ask you to also talk about one situation where you used good communication skills to get what was needed. Eric from Clinton, Ohio, came back and told us that he was an advocate on behalf of 18 that he worked on. Apparently, there was some discussion about how much time the team had left to complete a particular project and some issues about some of the participants. Erica stood up for the team and had a conversation with his teacher and advocated and one. Thus, allowed the team to get some additional time to complete their project for you I am sure it was a really good project when you did that. And then an example of a situation where you succeeded because you were persistent. William from Beavercreek, Ohio, talk about the fact that he went to look at different and new educational activities. He persisted by continuing to look at some other things and based on that on some really good ideas and some information that he was looking for. Bullion, that is really important to be able to look at things and say, yeah, I am interested in that. I also want to continue to see what other kinds of things are available for us. We also had some folks are right in and send us some letters about some questions that they wanted. I thought maybe we would take a minute and just talk about those. Some of those were the same questions we insert last time, but I want to go over these again because I think they are pretty important. Are there any suggestions with people with ADHD tool to help them cope with college. As we said last time, one of the things that sometimes really helps is to be able to do dueled modality morning. In other words, be able to sit and read a book and your that book being bred at the same time. It sometimes helps focus, sometimes up to get through the more boring areas. Thus, do are able to absorb more and do those kinds of things.
The other thing that ADHD folks have difficulties with is maintaining focus on certain things. Some students that I know of actually find that if they have music going in the background or a television or something like that that that helps them to focus and stay on track on the things that they are listening to. You can also get a thing called white noise, which basically is a sound that has no meaning to your brain, and you can put that on and that tends to block out the environment around you and thus cause you to focus on the one thing that you need to do, that particular breeding that might go on. And then the other thing that is important for folks with ADHD is to be able to have that opportunity to take tests in a quiet environment that causes them not to do that and then the other thing I've found is the release successful ADHD students always sit in the front of the class. That way they do not have any distracting things that draw their attention away behind them going on, where as if they sit in the back of a class, Bob Hall audience is there to be their stage -- the whole audience is there to be their stage. Students to the about being successful in a classroom certainly have found that sitting in the front of the room is the best thing to do. Can you get assistance with taking the SATs and ACT is? Yes, you can forget you have to write into the ACT or FET folks. You often have to provide some documentation of your disability, but there are things like additional time. Other kinds of things, other formats of tests that can be given that will allow you to do those kinds of things. Once again, you have to be able to write in and do those kinds of things. And also, a document that you have been receiving those while in school.
Some things about how to prepare for services not covered on a college campus. Adapted equipment that is sometimes out there. It may be financially, it may be difficulty financially getting those types of things. One of the things I would suggest stepfamilies investigate is the rehabilitation services commission of Ohio. It usually does not come into play until a student is about ready to graduate from high school, but they can work with families to help them to take a look at what is -- what support services are going to be necessary. In some cases, they are able to purchase disability related support services as well as items that are going to be necessary for that student to use while in college and later in work. So I would certainly recommend that you take a look in the Blue pages of the telephone book, find the rehabilitation Services Commission. Sometimes it is called the Bureau of vocational rehabilitation trade and other times it is called the Bureau of services for visually impaired, but [ indiscernible ] can often help families with some of the kind of supports that students need when they go on to college. They can also help students make up minds about careers and other kinds of things. So, I think it would be important to get to know that agency and to talk with them about being made eligible for services for those kinds of areas. There was another question about mentoring and how affective that is in are we going to be looking at those kinds of things? Yes, mentoring is a very important aspect. Some of the new things that we are going to be doing this next year will involve some mentoring opportunities, and even entering opportunities for students who are not college age get to mentor with some of our students who are here in college and to learn from those students. So, we will have more information about that during our next season that is coming up.
And then coming to know, what do you do about spelling and eText and editing work? Many, many students here at Wright State University have a buddy's and friends that breed over their work, and in some cases, do some editing. That does not mean that they are writing the paper for them. But what it means is that the student goes through and writes it the best way they can come and then they spend some time together talking about it and looking for ways to edit the material and also to correct any kind of spelling errors and things. Here at the University, we also have a place called the writing Center, which will allow you to go down into this office and make an appointment and see someone for an hour. They can help you to look at your work. Now, they are not going to edit the work for you, but they can point out issues that need to look at, and then you can go back and work on those. Writing is a very important aspect for college, and we believe what students to do as best as they can when they arrive here. And that may mean that maybe you need to think about other things like dictation or other methods that you could use to get your thoughts and your ideas onto the page okay. We are going to take a short break here for a minute and come up with another new innovation for Start Wright. We have made some contact with a person -- oh, coming up. Kathy just reminded me that I am all little bit ahead of myself. Coming up tonight, we are going to talk about what high-school courses should I take to prepare for STEMM studies in college? That is the first topic. The step in -- seconds topic is learning my learning style and finding technologies to help with that. We will talk about various things that assist people to do those kinds of areas. And then using my high school resources to get ready for college. What kinds of things do you have in junior high and high school that can now get you ready it to be able to go into those particular things? And then choosing a college friend what are the things you should be looking at when you are picking about choosing a college and getting ready for things? And then experiencing STEMM outside of school. We can talk about those kinds of areas.
Okay. Right now we are going to be talking about some other kinds of things that are related to that. We are going to get to our first topic. Okay. So, we are going to start off by talking about what horse -- about what high school courses for all students are interested in science, technology, and engineering. What are the core curriculum courses that are absolutely necessary that will be due to a diploma? Well, first and foremost, most of the students need to take four years of English while in high school. As I said before, learning to write in be able to express yourself in a written format will definitely -- is definitely a skill that you need to learn. You will spend a great deal of your time in college writing. In order to be able to do that effectively, you may need to use things like grammar and other kinds of things to be able to do that more affectively. And also should be familiar with what kinds of things are available on your computer to help with those areas as well. Everybody when they talk about science, they talk about mathematics as the language of science. A lot of people try to stay away from math as much as possible, but quite honestly -- in almost every scientific area that you are going to go into, there is one to be some math involved in it. So, learning and sticking with your math programs and taking your algebra one course is, Your geometry, and algebra two are going to be important aspect. We want to encourage people to do that as much as possible. Now, I realize that some people's disabilities may not let them do as much with math. That is okay because not all science and technology areas require a huge amount of math. Some do, like engineering. But there are others like biology that don't require nearly as much, but they do require some basic level of math and some basic college algebra. So, it is important for you to stay in those courses, those college prep courses, and math and try to do the best you can as you go through those. And certainly, science is important. Many, many students use general -- take a general science course. We would like to be able to take geology and chemistry of possible. Those signs courses really begin to help focus on the areas that you might want to go into. Chemistry and physics are also part of that as well.
Being a successful learner in high school and being on. There are various learning styles. How do people learn? How do people learn differently? There are visual learners, people learn best by seeing. There are auditory learners, and then there is kinesthetic learners. I want to take a few minutes to talk about some of those kinds of things. Many of us learned by seeing. It we learn by seeing the things that are in front of us. Sometimes we need to focus on things. Sometimes we need to make a list of things. Sometimes we need to underline things. But there are various strategies that you can learn it as a visual learners that helps you to hold and maintain information. Some people learn a lot better by hearing. I think I'd do that. I have always been an auditory learner. If I could listen to something for a period of time, I seem to absorber it much, much better. And I am probably somebody that could have used the dolt modality function when I was in college to be able to both see and hear what was on my paper. I think things tend to stick with me a little bit better. Learning by hearing is an important aspect. And then finally, learning by doing. Working out math problems, sitting there and being persistent and spending an hour or two solving a math problem can be a great weight -- great learning experience, and you can feel really good after you have done that. Being able to find the persistence to do those problems really, really is important the other thing, learning by doing -- the other thing learning by doing can do is sometimes we have students that want to copy their notes over after they have been in a class. The fact that they sit and look at those notes that they have from their class and they think about them and write down additional thoughts, that really helps them. That is a form of learning by doing to be able to do those kinds of things and to go into those areas.
Being a successful winter in high school and beyond. Starting using special learning technologies that will help you now and in college. Things like math aids. For example, there is software out that you can purchase for your computer that will allow you to work math problems on your screen. That software really helps those of us with disabilities where we are not able to write clearly. But the other thing it does is it helps those of us that have a hard time lining up all of the problems in getting all of the numbers in the right road. It allows us to wait out those problems in away that is much more intuitive to solve pretty so, have thank you software on your computer that allows you to do that will help. Reading yep. Usually by the time he reached the eighth or ninth grade, continued reading instruction may not do those of you that have disabilities of all -- a lot different. Consequently, it may be time to think about shifting from learning to read to using alternatives to read. For example, textbooks that are on disks or textbooks that might be on tape might be something that you may want to consider doing. Into my want to start all both listening and reading at the same -- and you may want to start out listening and reading at the same time. Some students are able to move to listening after a short period of time, but others continue to use that dual modality for all their time. If your textbooks are not available on audio tapes or on your computer disks, you could try that out by buying an audio now fall that are available now -- not all that are available in bookstores. Buy a copy of the novel and see how you do with that as you go on. And then writing aids. We have already talked about spell checking. Even more so, sometimes people write better by speaking it first. So, they are able to dictate much more effectively and much more conceptually if they do it by sitting and just talking rather than having to write the word out by hand. And that may be dealing -- that maybe someone that has a physical disability who is not able to write clearly or some students with learning disabilities. And so one of the things that you might want to give some thought to is getting an inexpensive copy of the Dragon dictate. It is only $100. You can put it on your computer. You can train your computer to understand your boys come and see how much better you do by writing a paper by talking first is riding it out by one hand. Maybe writing an outline and then using that outline to dictate the final copy. But in any case, now is the time for you to begin to experiment with different kinds of affectations that will help you to do those kinds of things.
All right. We are going to move to a new section. Hints from Ms. Hannah. Just like last week, we brought in the great minds from STEMM history, this is another new feature that we are going to have regularly all live on our program. We are doing this because we want you to be good students. We realize that getting into college is just not something that you can say you want to do, you have to perform academically to do it. So, we are really interested in learning some of the tips that good students know that allow them to be able to do this. Ms. Hannah is pointed joined us from time to time on our programs and share but to some of the IDS.
Ever feel like your school work is sneaking up on you? Do you often get caught off guard by test questions or forget assignment deadlines? Wellcome organization and preparation are two major keys to academic success at all levels. And on just a second -- hand on just a second. Pop quiz. The good years -- cannot ever heart, principal and teacher from San Francisco California to provide tips to help turn students into a great student.
Oftentimes my students say that it is really hard to figure out what they're different teachers want from them. With students join with so many teachers from all different personalities in middle school, high school, and college, it can be challenging. But there are a few key things that almost all teachers do to let you know what they think is important and will probably show up on tests. First, listen for the teacher to repeat things. If they say something two or more times, you can guarantee that they think it is important for you to learn it. Second, pay attention to what they write down. If they reach for the chalkboard marker to write something on the board, you had better reach for your pen, because it is sure to be something you should be writing down also. Third, save the handouts that your teachers give you. Paper is not cheap, and we are all supposed to be using less -- less to save the environment for you if your teacher took the time to write something up and made copies for the whole class, you know they want you to keep it and study it. Finally, don't be afraid to ask. I know some teachers may be intimidating and you might be scared your classmates will think you are dumb, but you can almost always be sure that if you have a question and you ask it, then someone will be wishing you a silent thank you because they wanted to ask it also. Hope these steps help. Later.
Well, I hope you enjoyed Ms. Hannah and some of the ideas that she had. One of the things that would want to do between now and our next series of shows is get ideas for some of the things that you would like to hear. So, if you have some specific questions or some specific issues that he would like Ms. Hannah to address, please feel free to spend them in to us, and we will pass them along and include them in our future shows. At the other thing is if there are parents out there that have additional questions about the program and other kinds of things, we definitely would like to hear from you. You can email us at our email address. We would love to hear you -- love to hear from you, and we think it is an important aspect to communicate. Please continue to send us information that you would like to see us continue with and show. A caper you were talking about some of the things that you can do academically.
We talked about the various kinds of academic courses and talked about some different techniques that you can use or begin to use to kind of get you ready to go to college. High schools are a great resource and didn't you ready for college. You and your parents should meet with your school counselors early and often. If you are moving from junior high too high school, that is an ideal time to go in and need the guidance counselor and talk with a guidance counselor about what some of the upcoming courses are and some of the decisions you have made that you want to go into or follow through with. It is also a time if you are moving from one school to another to get a handle on exactly what are the techniques and how do I get assistance and what if I have a question, if my mom and dad want to come in and talk with the teacher, what is the procedure to do those kinds of things? Get yourself acclimated and ready to go. I think one of the things I hear from a lot of students is making a change from one school to another to go from junior high to my school, let's say, that that first year is often the toughest. So, if there are any things that you can do or ideas that you may have to make that first year of little bit easier in terms of getting information for meeting people or other kinds of things, I strongly suggest that you make contact with the school. They can certainly help you with those things. Once you are in school and once you are starting to go to high school, you should make sure that you do not fail to communicate your interests and ideas with your counselor. It talked about realistic ideas and directions that you want to go as you begin to go into your upper level courses.
You should talk about, what are the requirements? Every high school has a series of requirements that they require their students to go through in order to get their diploma. And also to talk about accommodations and halt those accommodations are a determined. Who informs the teachers about the accommodation it's? What if an accommodation is not working and to me to make a change. How do I do that or how do I discussed that? Those are all important questions that you should be talking about with your counselor and your teachers. But most of all, you as -- you and your family need to work as a unit with the school system to make sure that you get the support services that you need so that you could be successful in your education.
Choosing a college for STEMM studies. You know, we talk about college and we use that college, college, college. We are really talking about post secondary education. The education and get after high school. There are really three kinds of institutions that you can look at. The first we often talk about our two year and year colleges community colleges versus college universities. Thank you years gives you an associate degree -- two years gives you associated degrees. Two year colleges often provide people with the first courses they take are some of what they call a general education, their English, communication, maybe a history, maybe math, maybe an introductory science course. But for it -- but shortly after that, you begin to take courses in the field that you are interested in. Radiology, nursing, engineering field, something along that line.
Many two your programs have two kinds of degrees that you could receive. You can receive a regular associate's degree, which is what we call a terminal degree, which means that you leave that to match your program and usually you are headed to go all to go to work. Somebody who is interesting and -- interested in drafting, that would be the place you get that kind of degree. It would treat you -- teacher to be a draftsperson. Many two your programs often have what they call eight university parallel program, which means that you take your first two years at or community college, and at the end of that time, you get an associate's degree preheated but you have also taken a prerequisite courses that you are going to need now to allow you to move onto a four year institution and to ultimately get your bachelor's degree. So, two your programs are great programs to start with for many, many students. Particularly, if you are not quite ready to go to college. If your skills are not quite there in your English or math or some of those areas, community colleges have all lot of remedial courses that allows students to get ready to go into upper levels of their associates degree and even some cases move on and get their four year degree. So, a two your program is a great way to start coming in we are going to encourage you to look at those kinds of things for you to.
For your colleges or universities are there and available for students who are ready to enter college. They often usually have very few preparatory courses or dibbled mental courses for students to take -- or developmental courses for students to take pretty often, you begin with your general education requirements. For your institutions have a large number of general education classes to take a break for example, here at Wright State University, it regardless of whether you major in engineering, biology, social work, psychology, any of those areas, you have to have two courses of English, so many courses in math, a history course, music. For your institutions are interested in turning all people who they consider to be well-rounded and have knowledge in other areas besides just that particular major. So, you may end up taking a course in economics, communication courses, education courses, even if your manager is not in that particular area. So, the bachelors degree requires a minimum of four years. To be quite honest, many students are taking five in six years to complete those courses.
In the second and third year of your four program will be when you begin to work in your major area. Particularly, if you are in the STEMM field, you will begin to take those lab courses or engineering courses that you need to take. But really focus in on specific topics in your specific field. One other program that we cannot forget about our technical and vocational colleges. Some of them are private for-profit. Others are regular courses, career centers, other kinds of things like that that offer certificate programs in STEMM fields. In some cases, you can become a veterinary assistant, for instance, by attending a technical or vocational college. Many times, students to take technical school programs or technical courses in high school often go on to a technical or vocational college to finish off their skills and be ready to go out into the world of work. Even if you go to a technical or vocational college, if at some point in time you want to go to a two year or for your school, you can make that transfer. No one is saying that you love to one particular direction. You can change your mind as you go along. I had even seen kibble nowhere in for your programs who decided that they did not like that any longer and wanted to go get a technical degree, get a job, and move on. There is lots of opportunity to move around in those areas and do those kinds of things. But it is important to understand what is out there, what is available for you in each of those kinds of colleges.
What should you think about when you are choosing a college? You know, sometimes I hear students say, I want to know what kinds of things you do for fun there. How many friends and I going to have? Can I live in a dorm? Can I enjoy different kinds of things? Those are important aspects of college, but really the things that you should be focusing on are things like programs available for your career that you want to take. Some universities have a much more expanded program than others. The best example I can use is a difference between Wright State University and Ohio state. If you wanted to go into radio announcing and the communications field, television, radio, those kinds of things, probably Ohio State would be the Better School to go to. They actually have courses in those particular areas. Wright State University has a communications program that could possibly lead you in those areas, but they do not have the same facilities available to train you in most areas. So, we need to look at but the creatures is first and foremost. Second, is the location right for me? Quite frankly, people leap -- people need to live 5 miles from home and others want to live by 100 from home. Where is that all police and? How easy is it for me to get back and forth? How comfortable do me and my family feel about that decision? Certainly, if you are going to live on campus, you need to look at a housing and dining facilities that are available. Are they adaptive? Particularly, if you have a physical disability. What does it take to get into those areas? What kind of support services are available for you if you have a physical disability? All of those are good questions to be asking. Another important factor is cost.
Colleges can range in card -- from anywhere from a couple hundred dollars to thousands of dollars. So, knowing what the cost is and what kinds of things you are going to need to spend your money on not just for tuition but room and board and books and all those kinds of things. They are all expenses you need to sit down and think about. And when you attend a university or visit that university for the first time, those institutions should give you an average cost of what a student takes to go to a quarter on that particular campus. Academic and personal supports for people with physical disabilities and learning disabilities are an important aspect. So, looking at what those support services are are really, really important. And then what kind of academic admission requirements are there? Some schools are much more selective about who they will accept and what kinds of support they need to provide. So, in many, many cases, you may have to look at a variety of schools to find the right one that is willing to accept you into their program. Learning more about [ indiscernible ] we have talked a lot about the kinds of things you can do in school, but there is a lot of things that you can do outside of going to school that will help you to learn more about STEMM. Museums with a STEMM focus. At a place where you and your families can go visit. In some cases, there is Saturday morning programs that will teach you about various fields of STEMM. STEMM projects, STEMM camps for next summer, and programs that are on line are also out there and available. We are going to flip through a couple of them. It might help you to look at a couple of them. We hope you visit these at either online or in person. STEMM museums. There is several. Columbus, Ohio, is a great program that can help you. There is also the NASA plan Research Center in Cleveland that has a great number of things that can teach you about various STEMM museums. If you are here locally in Dayton, don't forget the Air Force museum. All of those provide opportunities for folks. And our [ indiscernible ] museum for children has a number of very interesting engineering experiments there.
STEMM hands on projects. There is all kinds of things on my now you can look go to and learn about. We would encourage you to go to both of these web site and learn about that, but not to be afraid to take three STEMM projects in terms of different things that are out there that can teach about science, technology, engineering, and math. Summer camps. I know it is early to be talking about summer, but there are STEMM camps out there that people can attempt to learn more about a particular field. We have listed a couple here on this page. I would incur due to look at those. Applying for those kinds of camps often happen shortly after the first of the year. So, keep your eye out and ask questions. STEMM online interaction. There are lots of programs out there that can teach you about STEMM field. We have listed a couple on there. We would like to spend some time on a computer reading about various STEMM areas. Okay. We are going to go next to our great minds and his three crewmen -- promo.
Although we -- He holds no formal college degree due primarily to the the struggles with dyslexia, he is considered one of the foremost paleontologists in the world. Jack [ indiscernible ] was the first to discover dinosaur eggs in the West hemisphere. He was even a technical adviser for the Jurassic Park film series. As a professor at Montana State University, he offers a unique approach to teaching his students. He says because I and this? So, I think differently. I never make my students memorize for tests. Instead, I have them explain what they know pretty he advises, if you are interested in doing something, spend time doing it.
If they want to do something, they should just do it and not worry about what anyone else says. People will have a passion for something are always going to be the best at their jobs.
Another great mind in a STEMM issue. You are listening to Wright State University Start Wright.
Well, I thought but -- I thought that was an interesting scientist to have on pretty I have been to a couple different anthropological conferences in. They really have some neat and interesting stuff. There are places even around here in the Ohio area for you to be able to learn about fossils' and other kinds of things. I would encourage you to look into that we are back to resources again. And just a few other things that we would like you to give some consideration to. There is a really good website about morning styles. I would encourage you to take a look at that and learn. Another one that I think is a great book title is called math doesn't suck. It talks about why it is important to learn math and something that can help you to go into those particular directions. And then there is also information on reading, writing, and math the three that are available at this other Web site. I would encourage you to spend some of your vacation time cruising around on the computer looking at some of these websites and having some discussions at night over the dinner table about what you've learned.
Okay. Homework winners. Congratulations. Charles from Dayton Ohio. William from Beavercreek, Ohio. Eric from print, Ohio, and Rachel from Springfield, Ohio have all one day certificates today. Okay. Hallmark for next time. Next time is a little bit further away, so we gave you a little bit more homework to do tonight. In some STEMM activities this winter break, we want you to send us a list of what you did. So, we want to hear from you what STEMM activities you got involved in over the winter break. But want to hear what your thoughts are about those. We would like to define some sites on the Web that helped you to learn about STEMM come and send us both addresses. We have given you a few to start with. We would like you to find some and share them with us. And then tell a friend with a disability about Start Wright and get them to contact us about joining for the next series instead Uri and March. So, we are really talking about asking a buddy to join in on the program in to listen. If you do that and they tell us that they were sent by one of you, we will have a special gift for you for doing those kinds of things. Now, you can send your answers the address below. We would like to hear from you by the First up that you were you with your homework answers if you want to be included in the next drawing.
Okay. What is next on Start Wright? Well, next we have a series of what castes in February and March. We are contacting a number of individuals who worked in STEMM field both with and without disabilities. We are actually going to do some live interviews over the Internet with those individuals. We are going to be refreshen on some of the building blocks out to talk about this fall. And we will have additional school hits, technologies to will be succeed, and people who work in science and engineering and what they do. Certainly, we have heard that the contests are important and what more of those. We will have more contests available for you. So, Mark your calendar February 17th at 7:00 p.m.. If there are other ideas or other things that you like us to provide to you, please, by all means, send us an email or drop us a note and let us know the things that are working for you. Those courses will start again in February. And then March 10th and March 24th will be our next series of shows. So, good night from Jeff Vernooy. I wish you all a happy holiday season. We will be looking for to seeing you next time at Start Wright.
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